‘We have no multi-generational proof that vegan diets work’

April 9, 2018

LIVING PROOF: “Meanwhile I will only believe a diet is healthy if we can validate that five generations have eaten that way, still have fertility, are still in excellent health and still doing very well. Find me a vegan society that would have developed if it were one of the many types of food eating that worked, we don’t have it. It doesn’t mean it’s possible, I think it’s impossible.” – Clinical nutritionist and naturopath David Getoff.

HUNTER GATHERERS: The Canadian explorer Weston Price (1870-1948) who carried out research on the diets of 12 different tribes including the Inuits, the Eskimos and the Maoris and found that whose who had a higher amount of animal protein in their original diets were healthier and didn’t develop conditions associated with Western-style living. He found no evidence of any tribes he encountered existing on an exclusively plant-based diet. Picture courtesy of Wikipedia editor Jared Bond.

 

SEEING whether a vegan or other specific diet works in wider society takes up to five generations to find out.

This is amongst the claims made by  ertified clinical nutritionist and naturopath David Getoff. He is a member of the New York Academy of Sciences and an elected member of the International College of Integrative Medicine.

Dr Getoff, who is interviewed on the IHealth You Tube channel in 2012,  says that science didn’t know the immediate effects of the toxic consequences of materials and sprays such as DDT, asbestos or DES diethystilbestrol as it takes years rather than months to see the effects on the diets, and the same applies to diets too.

“It takes a long time for something that is wrong to show itself. So for example, if the only time we figure it out something was bad for us as a human being was if it caused the symptom within a week, or within a month we wouldn’t know most of things that cause cancer.

“The thing that people don’t understand that the only research having to do with healthy eating – what is good for a long-term way for a population to eat – the only research that is valid for that is multi-generational research.

‘Huge variations in diets across globe’

“So somebody wants to tell me – which they do all the time – this is a healthy way to eat, ‘no this is a healty way to eat’ they can fill in the blank with vegetarian, lacto-vegetarian, lacto-ovo vegetarian, fish only and strict vegan. WE have huge variations across the planet in the ways people eat.

Dr Getoff cites the explorer Weston Price who went to remote parts of the worlds to study different tribes and found that when they had their original diets in their own homesteads, they didn’t develop diseases associated with Western styles of living. Their original diets tended to be omnivorous and not exclusively plant-based.

“Even when the planet is this huge and even when people like Weston Pryce and other explorers went around the planet to different places, they found the civilizations or tribal populations such as the Eskimos, the New Zealand Maoris and the Masai in Africa found that the original ways these people ate they didn’t have all of our diseases.

‘Remote tribes don’t have vegetarian diets’ 

“You would have 30, 40 and 50 year olds without cancer, heart disease and diabetes and all the things we had they didn’t have. Their diets were different from one another but there were a couple of similarities, Price, who studied a dozen different tribal populations, never found a vegetarian diet.

“The few times he found tribes that because of a mountain range or something particular animal food whether it was a particular type of bird or four-legged animal were less to be in an area or caught in that area.

Tribes that had more animal protein were healthier’

It could be a very similar part of the world but not that far apart and that tribe could get more animal protein than that tribe, the one eating more animal protein was healther.
“If we have such a large planet with such unbelievably diverse populations and climates – for example unbelievably hot and humid and unbelievably hot and dry to everything in the middle.

So with all the different types of things you would think would sustain long-term multi-generational health would have been tried and would be going on somewhere if they worked.

‘Point me to a fourth-generation vegan’

“How come we don’t have single vegan tribe anywhere on the Planet Earth. How come you can’t point me to a fourth-generation vegan?

Dr Getoff suggested that an experiment be corporately funded to have a vegan island where all food would be exclusively plant-based and that everything requested would be supplied.
“I would want to see if it got to five generations because that would proves a really, perfect diet and they were still in perfect health.

‘DHA and EPA don’t exist in plants’

“Personally speaking DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) and EPA (Eicosanpentaenoic Acid) don’t exist in the plant kingdom and unless your body can make enough of it from the plant sources of omega 3s which most people can’t. Vitamin B12 has been proven to be poorly absorbed except in animal origin. A lot of vegetarians take B12, so how do you have a healthy diet if you have to take a supplement?”

‘Find me a vegan society that has lasted five generations’

“Meanwhile I will only believe a diet is healthy if we can validate that five generations have eaten that way, still have fertility, are still in excellent health and still doing very well. Find me a vegan society that would have developed if it were one of the many types of food eating that worked, we don’t have it. It doesn’t mean it’s possible, I think it’s impossible.”

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